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Old 01-03-2014   #1
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WTB: Small PU for grandson

Tried to talk to the boy and his mother about why he REALLY doesn't need a small pickup (Ranger, Toyota, similar) but my advice fell on deaf ears. So….if anyone has a line on a decent mini-pickup--either selling one or know of a neighbor who is--lemeno.

Not a lot of criteria for options, but preference would be newish (at least into the airbag era) and $3G or less. Boy doesn't drive a stick yet, but he's gotta learn soon.

ADD: I'd also consider anything in the way of a small, reliable vehicle (any make/model) in the same price range. Figger if I buy it and GIVE IT TO HIM, he isn't gonna turn it down.
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Old 01-03-2014   #2
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

The Toyota's are tough little trucks with the SR22 engines... I guess you are also looking for 4x4 right?


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Old 01-03-2014   #3
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

Yup. Yotas are tough little trucks. I had an '88 that went 120K without problems before I sold it, but it couldn't hold a candle to my '92 Isuzu 4x4 that I put 175K mi on, still with the original clutch and major engine components. And I used it to pull my ski boat to/from Lake Cumberland.

Pretty sure the boy can't afford a 4x4, including the 'cherry' pictured above.
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Old 01-04-2014   #4
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

Does it have to be PU?
http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/4261147653.html
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Old 01-04-2014   #6
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

Thx for the links. Altho I don't "live" on CL the way I used to when I was younger and poorer, I have seen some of those and forwarded them on to my daughter to look at. To be fair, none of those appear to be screaming deals to me, but then I haven't bought an older used vehicle in awhile. I can't help but feel that anything with more than 150K has to be getting long in the tooth and will end up being a money pit in short order….but I guess the kid has to find out the hard way for himself.

I sold my Dad's Mazda MPV recently which only had 90K mi on it and I tried for a week or so to convince the kid that would be a great first car as far as value for the money, but he wouldn't even consider it. Tells me he's got more testosterone than brains right now, but what 16 yo doesn't….
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Old 01-06-2014   #7
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

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To be fair, none of those appear to be screaming deals to me, but then I haven't bought an older used vehicle in awhile. I can't help but feel that anything with more than 150K has to be getting long in the tooth and will end up being a money pit in short order….but I guess the kid has to find out the hard way for himself.
As a parent who went through this a year or two ago, CARS; otherwise known as Cash for Clunkers; and the bad economy have done a number on the used car market. I was seeing cars I thought would have been $3000 being listed for double that.

And if you can find a Ranger with the 3.0 in it, it'll last until the sun burns out as long the oil gets changed since it's the Vulcan 3.0 that came in the Taurus and Sable from the early 90s http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/4268804480.html is a decent example of that.
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

Thanks for the info. I know some of the V6s from the mid- to late-90s era had problems with intake manifold gasket leaks. I was a day late a dollar short on calling on the one in your post--SOLD!!! Dammit….
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

How about a Pathfinder?
http://www.assfaultjunkies.com/showt...-for-sale-2000
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That's a good price and awesome vehicle for a first car.
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

A4est: Thx. I saw that one and sent it on to my daughter/grandson. She seemed leery of the mileage, but neither of them have come to realize they aren't gonna buy a low-mileage late-model on the budget they've set. Both of 'em are are of the champagne taste/beer budget mindset. I pinged them again yesterday on it to remind them.
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

For years my father had an S10 sitting in the driveway (6cyl manual trans). I think it did need some work but it ran. Then a few years before I got my license he sold it to a friend of his (who later blew the motor reving it in mud) and I got stuck with my grandmother's old ford escort wagon . Ever since then I've always wanted to try a small pickup.

Wasn't all bad though. I got my enjoyment out of the escort and I remember filling it up for $13.

Now that I think of it that econobox had features that I don't seem to see on new cars.. fuel door lock, an a-pillar retractable antenna, and motorized shoulder strap seat belts.
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Old 01-08-2014   #13
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

I'm with you on the mindset that a small pickup is not a good idea... especially for a first car. Lightweight in the rear and even the V6 will have lots of traction problems (under accel and rapid decel) if it's 2wd in anything but clear, warm, sunny weather. Not only that, many times he will learn the hard way thay a full size pickup can do anything a small one can, but better. Sure, you lose a few MPG, but towing capacity and bed size make up for it, and you're sitting up higher which would be safer for a new driver.

On his budget, if there's not some specific intentions to haul stuff in his future (dirt bike? go kart? mower? etc) I'd highly recommend what most first time driver's get, some kind of affordable, easy to maintain, cheap to fix, 4cyl econobox.

I'm only 28, but if I knew then what I know now, at 16 I would've opted for a Corolla or Saturn or something instead of my Z28. From 16-23 I spent thousands on mods, transmissions, clutches, speeding tickets, etc. Insurance hiked to $300/mon for liability only and I even had my license put on probation for 2 years from all the tickets. Wish I had all that money today to put into a new roof on the house or a better car in my own driveway, as now days I'm in a Saturn!
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

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….and motorized shoulder strap seat belts.
Hands down--Worst safety device EVER!!! Had 'em on one car and swore I would never buy another vehicle with a passive belt mechanism.

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….he will learn the hard way….
This is undoubtedly what will happen. My hope is that he lives thru it!
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Re: WTB: Small PU for grandson

If your grandson had an affinity for cars and machines he would not need help finding viable prospects, you'd already be driving him around to look at what he has seen on CL.

Maybe he just has not walked enough to appreciate a cheap reliable car that will enable him to later have the means to buy what he likes.
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